16 Januari 2025 https://anchor.fm/s/5de80a00/podcast/play/97018648/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-0-14%2Fc4e2a1d5-3d6f-f110-2176-e5321b221d6b.mp3Podcast: Play in new window | Download (Duration: 28:00 — 25.6MB) | EmbedShare thisFacebookXRedditEmail
