21 Agustus 2025 https://anchor.fm/s/5de80a00/podcast/play/106199791/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-6-30%2F8ad1935c-9578-8a93-6d87-6f63adcd0529.mp3Podcast: Play in new window | Download (Duration: 28:00 — 25.6MB) | EmbedShare thisFacebookXRedditEmail
