19 Januari 2025 https://anchor.fm/s/5de80a00/podcast/play/96501956/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-0-2%2Fbba5870a-1f35-fe39-738d-3e689f1bbda5.mp3Podcast: Play in new window | Download (Duration: 6:32 — 12.0MB) | EmbedShare thisFacebookXRedditEmail