12 Agustus 2025 https://anchor.fm/s/5de80a00/podcast/play/105773431/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-6-21%2Fd271efe1-7c9a-fb12-17d3-f98f916a8a37.mp3Podcast: Play in new window | Download (Duration: 5:53 — 5.4MB) | EmbedShare thisFacebookXRedditEmail
