27 Januari 2022 https://anchor.fm/s/5de80a00/podcast/play/45711783/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2022-0-5%2F34dab8ae-07de-63ad-ed9e-fcd31bd4c95a.mp3Podcast: Play in new window | Download (Duration: 14:22 — 19.8MB) | EmbedShare thisFacebookTwitterRedditEmail