24 Januari 2022 https://anchor.fm/s/5de80a00/podcast/play/45711437/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2022-0-5%2Fc985ee66-0510-fe3d-5976-c2e53ec13b2a.mp3Podcast: Play in new window | Download (Duration: 14:20 — 19.7MB) | EmbedShare thisFacebookTwitterRedditEmail