19 Agustus 2025 https://anchor.fm/s/5de80a00/podcast/play/105773545/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-6-21%2Fbb0388e3-4f15-be0d-a402-82fde4130e0a.mp3Podcast: Play in new window | Download (Duration: 4:59 — 4.6MB) | EmbedShare thisFacebookXRedditEmail
